JG:   That's right. I agree with that.

GN: And people end up getting into these vicious fights (i/a). All I did was try to help people build their organization to win so that we could as a region increase our clout. Never let anyone tell you I'm doing what John Harrington is doing for a living. No more, first of all I don't need to do that.

JG:   Right.

GN: Thank God I've been blessed and I don't need to do it, but you have people that all would like to (i/a) and this guy, who's a lunatic. Who wrote a nasty letter about cancer.

MN: Apsalon.

JG: Dave Apsalon from Edgewater Park. GN: What a nut he is.. MN: He's...

GN: (i/a) have cancer or had cancer. I mean what a fucking nut, who would write a nasty letter like that. Um, so a couple weeks ago and I also ended up having to meet him once with this Rosenberg.

JG:   I'm aware of it. GN: Who is certifiable.

JG:   He (i/a). GN: He's nuts.

JG:   He's a lunatic.

14:18   GN: I look into that man's eyes and if he's facing with his back to Atlantic City I could see through there. I mean he is crazy, this guy. And, and a pathological liar, I mean a complete and total liar. I can't deal with that and the guy sits here and promises John (i/a). I give him my word to support his one. I said to him listen. You don't like Harrington, a lot of people don't like John Harrington. The best thing you could do and even his own lawyer should embrace us and love us. Make him a fucking judge

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