JG:   I don't dispute, I don't doubt it. GN: He's crazy this guy.

JG:   I'm not doubting that he's a lunatic and he's certifiable. I, I don't doubt that.

MN: Yeah, when I met with him for the first time.

GN: Because Lou Gallagher comes to me about Ted and you ought to think about this guy Ted Rosenberg. I keep. hearing that this individual is a fucking drunk. I said to Mark I would talk to him the other day. And (i/a) I said Mark what are you a jerk off, the guy's a fucking idiot. Then your name came up and I said I don't give a fuck, he works for you, that's great. Let's pick somebody that can win.

MN: Buy by that time Lou threw his name in the hat.

GN: Yes and no. That's not really true. See, you got to remember something. People think when you look at something from a distance you're not quite - sure what you're looking at. Particular when you're looking at something outside what you understand and what you know. I mean I look at Burlington County I see names I'm not sure that I understand how it works or know how. it works. I don't know Lou Gallagher or people said I'm, I'm the (i/a) chairman. That's bullshit. John Harrington, when the fight came down, obviously looking out for his interests and trying to buy time. I told him he was making a big mistake. I said John if you're really in contention to be a judge, you oughta keep your fucking head down and stay out of office.

JG:   That's what he should of done.

GN: He should of kept his head down. JG: Hum um.

GN: But the worst candidate to run against Lou if you had run anybody. MN: Anybody else would have won.

GN: Again (i/a). But the problem is Gallagher is a nice person, he's hard working, he just not (i/a)./ And I'm not sure if he has the organizational skills that are necessary to really build, you got to be, you got to think

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