JG:   Well, there's a lot of strong local organizations, like mine for instance and Joe Foy's these people we, we have.

GN: But they're only a couple strong well oiled organizations.

JG: Well, okay, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, you know what when I say that I look at the seventh district exclusively. I really don't look at the rest of the county.

GN: Which has..

JG:   Correct.

GN: Which is around zero.

JG:   Correct, correct. So when I say that I'm talking about the seventh district which is really all we have.

GN: Yeah, three or four towns are pretty good. JG: Most of them.

GN: Three or four towns are good and Paul is doing everything he can to take the seventh district and make it a Republican district.

JG: Um hum.

GN: And I don't think they'll be successful in doing that, but they're sure as hell will try. I mean if he's successful it's over.

MN: Take Pennsauken (i/a).

GN: If he wants to take Pennsauken, I put Moorestown and then that's over. MN: Jesus.

GN: Forget it.

MN: Yeah.

GN: Now the reason I think it's going to be almost impossible for him to do that is he would be depriving an African-American in the city and that's woo and issue. That becomes a serious issue we're dealing with

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