all about. But I think what you have to do is that you have to take the people that are, that are bought and paid for. And you basically have to neutralize them. But the problem that is going on here is, I think you have three different uh, facets of party up there. You have Democrats owned by Republicans.

JG: Um hum.

GN: You have the other Democrats who don't like the incumbent Democrat. JG: Um hum.

GN: And the third category, so what happens is the ones that, Democrats are run by the Republicans just keep fucking throwing hand grenades. That the others and they fight each other back and forth. Instead of those two groups working together because the reality is the Lee 's their, their time has passed them by. They're not even factors, because if they were so much factors, you would have seen different things in the seventh legislature district. They can't affect the district, they don't have Maple. Shade they don't have Pennsauken and they don't have Willingboro. So what are they going to do about anything. It doesn't matter.

JG:   So how can I help. GN: I'm sorry.

JG:   How can I help?

GN: Well you should of run for fucking chairman and we wouldn't of had this problem.

JG:   It's Mark's fault. .

GN: Okay, well. Mark's made errors in the past. I've made errors. You know the question is if you became chairman tomorrow what would that do?

JG:   I'm no, I'm.

GN: I'm just asking what would it do theoretically. Is any of the Foy's now, see I think the, the Foy's are going to be coming into the camp's because, you know Tom boy wants to, the guy can fold against.

MN: What does he do for a living?

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