GN: To be the most qualified, the best, the honest, you know all that stuff and not that you don't do what's right, but you consider politics. And there's nothing wrong with considering if you can help a friend, you help a friend, as long as a friend's doing a good job. And, uh, they made a decision. Tim their judgement Schoor-DePalma was a better qualified firm for what they needed than JCA and uh, you want to know something that's interesting. Actually Lou Greenwald was in the meeting with me and Jim Beach and Harry (i/a) and Lou, knowing he was going to run (i/a), did not pitch himself. He never did that we said to Harry, wait a second, JCA was going to be the engineer of record. I don't care about your fucking review process and Lou stood up for him.

MN: Did he really?

GN: Absolutely did, right in the meeting.

MN: Good to know.

GN: Cause I told Skip from the beginning, he was in number two. MN: I think they're a little put out.

GN: No he wasn't, he had no problem, maybe his local (i/a) were, but he didn't. MN: Okay.

GN: Skip trust me. He knows I don't play games with him. MN: I saw him last night in East Windsor.

GN: I tell him where he has opportunities and where he doesn't. You know, I'm not gonna bullshit him.

MN: He's doing well.

GN: Oh, the firm has don unbelievable. And you're gonna do fantastic in a . democrat administration. Big time. But I like him, I like the people in that firm. I think they're nice people.

MN: I don't like Steve DePalma. I know you.

GN: I met him once. I don't, I'm talking about the firm.

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